Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/12/1998 01:50 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 16                                                              
                                                                               
"An Act relating to delinquent minors, to the taking                           
of action based on the alleged criminal misconduct of                          
certain minors, to the services to be provided to the                          
victims of criminal misconduct of minors, and to                               
agency records involving minors alleged to be                                  
delinquent based on their criminal misconduct; and                             
amending Rule 19 and repealing Rules 6, 7, 11(a),                              
12(a), and 21(f), Alaska Delinquency Rules."                                   
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley questioned how the Department's fiscal note                    
would be affected by new Amendment #1.  [Copy on File].                        
                                                                               
ELMER LINDSTROM, SPECIAL ASSISTANT, OFFICE OF THE                              
COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVCIES,                        
pointed out that the Department had submitted two fiscal                       
notes to the Committee.  The Division of Medical Assistance                    
submitted a zero note accompanied with an analysis                             
regarding new facilities.  He commented that Ms. Tanoury                       
would speak to the fiscal note submitted by the Division of                    
Family and Youth Services (DFYS).                                              
                                                                               
THERESA TANOURY, ADMINISTRATOR, CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES,                     
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES, discussed the                        
fiscal note which the Division submitted to cover costs                        
associated with semi-secure beds.  Currently, there are 15                     
grantees that provide group care.  She believed that                           
staffing with a 1:3 ratio would be necessary in order to                       
manage behavior problems.  The fiscal note recommends                          
increasing staffing patterns.                                                  
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley suggested that the Department was making a                     
policy call with the request of additional staffing.  He                       
questioned the $210 thousand dollar grant and claim line.                      
Ms. Tanoury stated that the program would not work without                     
the additional staff support.  There has been no rate                          
increase since 1990, whereas, difficult-to-care-for                            
children numbers have dramatically increased.                                  
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley reiterated his concern.  He asked if                           
providers would need extra State grants to make the care                       
worthwhile. Co-Chair Hanley commented that he would not                        
support the amendment with the additional fiscal costs.  He                    
questioned if beds could be built without the requested                        
funding.  Ms. Tanoury advised that the State would not                         
build the semi-secure beds without the requested funding                       
support.                                                                       
                                                                               
RAY GILLESPIE, SPOKE ON BEHALF OF KATHY CRONEN, CHARTER,                       
NORTHSTAR BEHAVORIAL HEALTH SYSTEM, ANCHORAGE, noting that                     
Ms. Cronen was currently out for family emergency,                             
although, requested to testify on the fiscal and                               
legislative impact of the legislation at a latter date.                        
                                                                               
Representative Kelly referenced SB 289 legislation from two                    
years ago.  He asked if the fiscal note, which had been                        
funded with that legislation, had been used.                                   
                                                                               
ROBERT BUTTCANE, JUVENILLE PROBATION OFFICER, DIVISION OF                      
FAMILY AND YOUTH SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL                     
SERVICES, noted that he did not have the fiscal notes                          
attached to that legislation, although, believed that the                      
money was not used to create a semi-secure facility.  Ms.                      
Tanoury pointed out that at this time, there is not a semi-                    
secure residential care facility in Anchorage or Fairbanks.                    
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley asked if the grants would be available only                    
for non-profits.  Mr. Lindstrom noted that was correct and                     
that the amendment would provide profits and non-profits to                    
have semi-secure facilities, whereas, the grants would only                    
allow the non-profit's funding.                                                
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley explained that Amendment #1 had been                           
introduced to clarify profit versus non-profit.  It was                        
never the intent that for-profits receive grants.  The new                     
draft of the amendment clarifies that the grant process                        
remains the same as current law.  Co-Chair Hanley MOVED to                     
adopt Amendment #1.  There being NO OBJECTION, the new                         
Amendment #1 was adopted.                                                      
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies spoke to the new Amendment #3.                        
[Copy on File].  He stated that the amendment would remove                     
13, 14 & 15 year olds from the bill sentencing provisions                      
and would make that referral discretionary with the                            
Department.  He informed members that with the changes                         
proposed in the amendment, costs associated with the bill                      
would drop substantially.                                                      
                                                                               
Mr. Buttcane commented that Amendment #3 would limit the                       
dual sentencing provisions to youth 16 & 17 years old, who                     
meet two criteria:                                                             
                                                                               
? Presented with a felony crime against a person                               
and having a history of felony adjudication in                                 
the past; or                                                                   
? Sexual abuse of a minor in the second degree.                                
                                                                               
The Department has estimated that there would be 8 youth                       
per year that would meet these criteria.  The amendment                        
makes dual sentencing discretionary.                                           
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt Amendment #3.                          
There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                      
                                                                               
Representative Kelly MOVED to adopt Amendment #4.  [Copy on                    
File].  He advised that the amendment would address a                          
technical statutory problem.  There being NO OBJECTION, it                     
was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley reiterated that he would not be supportive                     
of the $210 thousand dollar grant line proposed in the                         
Department's fiscal note.  He MOVED to eliminate the grants                    
and claim line.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was deleted.                     
                                                                               
Representative Foster MOVED to report CS HB 16 (FIN) out of                    
Committee with individual recommendations and with the                         
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                     
                                                                               
CS HB 16 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do                        
pass" recommendation and with two fiscal notes by the                          
Department Administration, the Department of Health and                        
Social Services, the Alaska Court System, the House Finance                    
Committee, the Department of Law, and the Department of                        
Corrections.                                                                   

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